Color comparison

Farrow & Ball PigeonvsFarrow & Ball French Gray

Why this comparison: F&B’s two gray-greens; Pigeon leans bluer, French Gray greener. Pigeon and French Gray are close but distinct (ΔE 6.5). Visible difference on the wall, especially in flat daylight.

Measured, not eyeballed

The Numbers

ΔE20006.5Different colorPerceptual color distance. Lower means more alike.
LRV delta8French Gray is lighterLight reflectance: how bright each reads on a wall.
UndertoneDifferentPigeon: green / coolFrench Gray: yellow / warm

French Gray is slightly lighter (LRV 42 vs 34, 8-point delta).

Undertone and depth

What Each Color Really Is

PigeonNo. 25 · LRV 34

Farrow & Ball's own card files Pigeon as a gray, but the paint on the wall rarely agrees. It's built on a green-gray base with a blue-gray undercurrent, and which one shows depends entirely on the light: strong, indirect daylight pulls the green forward until it reads close to a soft sage; dim corners and north-facing rooms drain that green out and leave a cooler, smokier blue-gray behind. Named for the color of London street pigeons, it has been in the F&B deck for decades and is one of the brand's most consistently recommended neutrals for exactly this reason — it never looks flat.

At LRV 35 it sits solidly in the mid-tone range: light enough to work on walls without swallowing a room, dark enough that it reads as a real, considered color rather than a whisper of one. That depth is also why the shift is so noticeable — a paler green-gray would just look pale in poor light, but Pigeon has enough saturation to visibly change character rather than merely dim.

Full Pigeon review →
French GrayNo. 18 · LRV 42

French Gray is one of Farrow & Ball's oldest and most-reached-for colors, and it is built on a lie its own name tells: this is a green-gray, and in real light the green usually wins. Farrow & Ball's chalky, pigment-heavy base gives it a soft, almost powdery depth that flat modern paints don't have — it reads less like "gray with a tint" and more like a genuine, complex sage that happens to lean gray in low light. At LRV 42 it sits solidly in mid-tone territory: not a pale wash, not a moody deep color, but enough depth to hold its own on four walls.

The light behavior is the whole story with this color, and it's consistent across every review that has actually lived with it: morning light reads it cooler and closer to true gray, while afternoon and south-facing light pulls the green forward until it's unmistakable. North-facing rooms keep it muted and quiet all day; south-facing rooms let the sage side come out in full. None of this is a flaw — it's exactly what a genuinely mixed pigment does — but it means the same tin of paint can look like two different colors in two different rooms of the same house.

Full French Gray review →
The data

Specs Side by Side

SpecPigeonFrench Gray
BrandFarrow & BallFarrow & Ball
SKUNo. 25No. 18
Hex#9A9F94#B0AF9B
RGB154, 159, 148176, 175, 155
LRV3442
Undertonegreen / coolyellow / warm
FamilyGrayNeutral
Light by light

How Light Changes Them

PigeonNo. 25 · LRV 34
BESTBright, indirect daylight

The green comes forward and the color reads soft, sage-leaning and alive. This is the light Pigeon was built for.

RISKDim rooms, no real daylight

The green drains out and it flattens toward a cool, slightly lifeless blue-gray. Readers call it "muddy" here. Test before committing a dark room to it.

SHIFTSThrough the day

Bluer in morning shade, greener at midday, plain warm gray in between. Most owners come to like the movement rather than fight it.

BULBSEvening light

2700K lamps pull it toward a smoky, blue-leaning gray. Cool LEDs flatten it further and cancel the green almost entirely — swap bulbs before you swap paint.

French GrayNo. 18 · LRV 42
BESTSouth / afternoon light

The green comes forward and the color reads as a genuine, confident sage. This is French Gray at its most honest.

RISKNorth light, overcast day

Cool, low daylight mutes the green almost completely and can leave the wall looking flat and slightly murky. Test before committing if this is your only light source.

SHIFTSMorning to afternoon

Mornings read cooler and closer to true gray; by mid-afternoon the sage side is unmistakable. Same paint, two different moods in one day.

BULBSEvening lamplight

Warm 2700K bulbs settle it into a muted, khaki-leaning green-gray — cozy, not gray at all. Cool white LEDs flatten it back toward gray and can look slightly dull.

Real rooms

Both Colors in Real Rooms

Photos from our full reviews — the same rooms and captions, so you can judge each color where it actually lives, not on a chip.

PigeonNo. 25 · LRV 34
Pigeon on the island only — bright daylight pulls the green forward, and the white perimeter keeps the rest of the kitchen from going dark.
Pigeon on the island only — bright daylight pulls the green forward, and the white perimeter keeps the rest of the kitchen from going dark.
Its native habitat: a boot room where a slightly darker, forgiving color hides scuffs a stark white couldn't.
Its native habitat: a boot room where a slightly darker, forgiving color hides scuffs a stark white couldn't.
French GrayNo. 18 · LRV 42
French Gray cabinets in real afternoon light — the sage green comes forward against the butcher block and black hardware.
French Gray cabinets in real afternoon light — the sage green comes forward against the butcher block and black hardware.
Morning light keeps it cooler and closer to true gray — the calmer, quieter side of the color.
Morning light keeps it cooler and closer to true gray — the calmer, quieter side of the color.
The decision

When to Pick Which

Farrow & Ball
Pick Pigeon
Farrow & Ball Pigeon
Best for

Kitchen islands and cabinets · boot rooms, mudrooms and entryways · powder rooms and small baths · studies, dens and panelled rooms · front doors · anyone who wants a neutral with more personality than gray but less commitment than green

Skip if

You want a color that reads the same in every room of the house · your space only gets dim, indirect light · you're painting an entire small kitchen wall-to-wall in it · you need a guaranteed-stable gray for a resale flip

Farrow & Ball
Pick French Gray
Farrow & Ball French Gray
Best for

Kitchens and cabinets in decent daylight · bedrooms and bathrooms with a real window · hallways and entryways that need one calm color throughout · anyone who actually wants a soft green, not a true gray

Skip if

You want a true, flat gray with zero green cast · your room is north-facing and genuinely dim · you're pairing it with a stark bright white trim · your floors and hardware are already fighting for attention

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Questions people actually ask

Pigeon vs French Gray FAQ

Which is lighter, Pigeon or French Gray?

French Gray is lighter: LRV 42 vs 34. French Gray is slightly lighter (LRV 42 vs 34, 8-point delta).

Which is warmer, Pigeon or French Gray?

French Gray is the warmer of the two (yellow / warm); Pigeon reads green / cool.

How similar are Pigeon and French Gray?

Pigeon and French Gray are close but distinct (ΔE 6.5). Visible difference on the wall, especially in flat daylight. The only reliable test is seeing both in your own room and light — a side-by-side on a screen or chip flattens the difference.

Can I use Pigeon and French Gray together in one house?

Yes, in separate rooms. They are close enough to feel related but different enough to notice, so give each its own room and connect them with a shared trim white. Avoid putting them on adjoining walls.

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