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Dunn-Edwards With the GrainDET668 · #BCA380 · LRV 38

With the Grain reads as a warm red-orange tone — mid-tone — versatile but shifts visibly with light. The notes below cover the color's details, what Dunn-Edwards DET668 actually looks like under different light, and the closest matches at competing US brands.

DUNN-EDWARDS WITH THE GRAIN
RGB 188, 163, 128LRV 38

Color spec

BrandDunn-Edwards
NameWith the Grain
SKUDET668
Hex#BCA380
RGB188, 163, 128
HSL35°, 31%, 62%
LRV38
Undertonewarm red-orange tone
FamilyNeutral
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About Dunn-Edwards With the Grain

With the Grain sits in the mid-range at LRV 38, so it shifts visibly through the day — lighter and more open in morning light, deeper and moodier after dark. Its orange undertone is the part to watch: it gets picked up by whatever sits next to it, so test it against your trim, floor and the room's main light before committing. South-facing rooms will pull it lighter and warmer, while north light cools it down.

With the Grain is versatile enough for full rooms but has enough depth to anchor a space, so it suits living rooms, bedrooms and cabinetry alike. Greige-leaning neutrals like this are the safe whole-home choice when you want warmth without committing to a color.

Closest matches by brand

15 brands within ΔE 5

The closest matches per brand by ΔE2000, computed against each brand's full deck. Only colors within ΔE 5 (close enough to substitute on a wall) are shown — brands with no real match are left off. Tap any swatch for its full single-color spec; tap the brand title to browse all neutral from that brand.

Sherwin-Williams

1,947 colors in deck · best ΔE 2.17
All neutral at Sherwin-Williams →
SW 9118 · #B9A47E · ΔE 2.17 · LRV 38
SW 6108 · #BAA185 · ΔE 2.51 · LRV 38
SW 9103 · #C1A485 · ΔE 2.59 · LRV 40
SW 7714 · #BFA287 · ΔE 3.88 · LRV 39

Behr

5,644 colors in deck · best ΔE 0.6
All neutral at Behr →
T13-4 · #BDA37E · ΔE 0.6 · LRV 39
N270-4 · #BAA27A · ΔE 1.81 · LRV 38
UL170-4 · #BAA487 · ΔE 1.9 · LRV 39
HDC-CT-07 · #B9A586 · ΔE 1.98 · LRV 39

Benjamin Moore

4,068 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.19
All neutral at Benjamin Moore →
1040 · #BCA47E · ΔE 1.19 · LRV 38
1054 · #B8A183 · ΔE 1.65 · LRV 37
CC-336 · #B8A183 · ΔE 1.65 · LRV 37
CW-125 · #B8A387 · ΔE 2.27 · LRV 38

Valspar

2,858 colors in deck · best ΔE 2.21
All neutral at Valspar →
3005-9C · #BDA076 · ΔE 2.21 · LRV 37.5
T577 · #BEA98C · ΔE 2.59 · LRV 41.3
6008-4A · #BDA982 · ΔE 3.08 · LRV 40.8
8003-20E · #C29D74 · ΔE 4.07 · LRV 37

PPG / Glidden

2,132 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.79
All neutral at PPG / Glidden →
PPG1086-5 · #B89F78 · ΔE 1.79 · LRV 36
PPG15-09 · #B9A58A · ΔE 2.7 · LRV 39
PPG1095-5 · #C2A377 · ΔE 2.73 · LRV 39
PPG1100-4 · #B8A57B · ΔE 3.73 · LRV 39

Glidden

3,101 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.74
All neutral at Glidden →
20YY 36/185 · #B7A183 · ΔE 1.74 · LRV 36
PPG15-09 · #BAA589 · ΔE 2.32 · LRV 39
30YY 36/185 · #B5A283 · ΔE 2.37 · LRV 36
00YY 37/221 · #C3A283 · ΔE 3.9 · LRV 37

Dutch Boy

1,340 colors in deck · best ΔE 2.68
All neutral at Dutch Boy →
414-4DB · #BAA287 · ΔE 2.68 · LRV 38
417-3DB · #B9A58B · ΔE 2.98 · LRV 39
320-4DB · #C0A87C · ΔE 3.12 · LRV 41
420-3DB · #B2A48D · ΔE 4.93 · LRV 38
HGSW 3194 · #B9A47E · ΔE 2.17 · LRV 39
HGSW 9118 · #B9A47E · ΔE 2.17 · LRV 39
HGSW 3145 · #BAA185 · ΔE 2.51 · LRV 38
HGSW 6108 · #BAA185 · ΔE 2.51 · LRV 38

Farrow & Ball

302 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.89
All neutral at Farrow & Ball →
NO. 38 · #BBA682 · ΔE 1.89 · LRV 39
NO. G5 · #B5A086 · ΔE 3.02 · LRV 37
NO. 20 · #B49D82 · ΔE 3.1 · LRV 35

Diamond Vogel

1,386 colors in deck · best ΔE 0.91
All neutral at Diamond Vogel →
0260 · #BFA583 · ΔE 0.91 · LRV 39
0282 · #B7A27D · ΔE 2.05 · LRV 37
0239 · #BFA283 · ΔE 2.52 · LRV 39
H112 · #BAA784 · ΔE 2.61 · LRV 38

Hirshfield's

1,469 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.21
All neutral at Hirshfield's →
0275 · #BBA583 · ΔE 1.21 · LRV 39
0267 · #BEA27B · ΔE 1.32 · LRV 38
0302 · #B9A37F · ΔE 1.39 · LRV 39
H0112 · #BBA684 · ΔE 1.68 · LRV 40

Rodda

357 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.86
All neutral at Rodda →
CA095 · #BAA386 · ΔE 1.86 · LRV 39
CA107 · #BEA182 · ΔE 2.54 · LRV 38
CA094 · #BCA68C · ΔE 3 · LRV 40
CA106 · #BD9E7F · ΔE 3.38 · LRV 37

C2 Paint

580 colors in deck · best ΔE 2.85
All neutral at C2 Paint →
C2-843 · #B9A47B · ΔE 2.85 · LRV 38
C2-845 · #B9A888 · ΔE 3.29 · LRV 40
BD32 · #C5A382 · ΔE 3.79 · LRV 40
C2-875 · #BBA87E · ΔE 3.85 · LRV 40

Portola Paints

69 colors in deck · best ΔE 3.9
All neutral at Portola Paints →
BOONDOCKS · #B09E85 · ΔE 3.9 · LRV 35
CODA · #BCA18A · ΔE 4.91 · LRV 38

Kompozit

1,321 colors in deck · best ΔE 1.21
All neutral at Kompozit →
0275 · #BBA583 · ΔE 1.21 · LRV 39
0267 · #BEA27B · ΔE 1.32 · LRV 38
0302 · #B9A37F · ΔE 1.39 · LRV 38
0310 · #BAA47A · ΔE 2.8 · LRV 38

Similar Dunn-Edwards colors

closest in the Dunn-Edwards deck

The nearest shades to With the Grain within Dunn-Edwards's own range, ranked by perceptual color distance — useful when you want the same look a touch lighter, darker, or warmer.

DEBN49 · LRV 38
DE6144 · LRV 37
DEC760 · LRV 36
DEBN48 · LRV 39
DET661 · LRV 39
DE6137 · LRV 35

Coordinated palette

Generated by hue-rotating #BCA380 in HSL space. Pair With the Grain with one accent and one neutral — the swatches below are starting points, not final picks.

COMPLEMENTARY
#BCA380 + #8099BC
TRIADIC
#BCA380 · #80BCA3 · #A380BC
ANALOGOUS
#BC8580 · #BCA380 · #B7BC80

Accessibility (WCAG contrast)

Sample text on white
2.42:1fail
Sample text on black
8.69:1AAA

WCAG 2.1: AA = 4.5:1 normal text · AA Large = 3:1 large text · AAA = 7:1 normal text.

Dunn-Edwards With the Grain Equivalents at Other Brands

Matching With the Grain from a different paint counter? Below is the single closest color in each major US deck and how close it really is. Remember that any paint store can also custom-tint Dunn-Edwards DET668 directly — these equivalents are for when you'd rather stay inside one brand's own deck.

Sherwin-Williams Equivalent of With the Grain

At Sherwin-Williams, the closest color to With the Grain is Tarnished Treasure (SW 9118) — very close at ΔE 2.17, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Tarnished Treasure swatch →

Behr Equivalent of With the Grain

The closest Behr equivalent of With the Grain is Golden Age (T13-4). At ΔE 0.6 the two are indistinguishable on a wall — it carries the same warm red-orange undertone and sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38). If Behr is your counter, order Golden Age and you'll get the same color. See the full Golden Age swatch →

Benjamin Moore Equivalent of With the Grain

Benjamin Moore's nearest match is Spice Gold (1040), visually identical in normal room light (ΔE 1.19). It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone, so it substitutes for With the Grain without repainting risk. See the full Spice Gold swatch →

Valspar Equivalent of With the Grain

At Valspar, the closest color to With the Grain is Caraway Seed (3005-9C) — very close at ΔE 2.21, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 37.5 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Caraway Seed swatch →

PPG / Glidden Equivalent of With the Grain

PPG / Glidden has no exact twin of With the Grain. The nearest is Sailor's Knot (PPG1100-4) at ΔE 3.73 — close, but the difference shows next to trim and in side light. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38). Compare large swatches before substituting. See the full Sailor's Knot swatch →

Glidden Equivalent of With the Grain

Glidden's nearest match is Soft Honey Gold (20YY 36/185), visually identical in normal room light (ΔE 1.74). It runs slightly darker (LRV 36 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone, so it substitutes for With the Grain without repainting risk. See the full Soft Honey Gold swatch →

Dutch Boy Equivalent of With the Grain

At Dutch Boy, the closest color to With the Grain is Southwood Lane (414-4DB) — very close at ΔE 2.68, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Southwood Lane swatch →

HGTV Home by Sherwin-Williams Equivalent of With the Grain

At HGTV Home by Sherwin-Williams, the closest color to With the Grain is Balanced Tan (HGSW 3194) — very close at ΔE 2.17, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Balanced Tan swatch →

Farrow & Ball Equivalent of With the Grain

Farrow & Ball's nearest match is Biscuit (NO. 38), visually identical in normal room light (ΔE 1.89). It sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone, so it substitutes for With the Grain without repainting risk. See the full Biscuit swatch →

Diamond Vogel Equivalent of With the Grain

At Diamond Vogel, the closest color to With the Grain is Tailored Tan (0239) — very close at ΔE 2.52, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Tailored Tan swatch →

Hirshfield's Equivalent of With the Grain

Hirshfield's's nearest match is Rich Reward (0302), visually identical in normal room light (ΔE 1.39). It sits at the same lightness (LRV 39 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone, so it substitutes for With the Grain without repainting risk. See the full Rich Reward swatch →

Rodda Equivalent of With the Grain

At Rodda, the closest color to With the Grain is Chisel (CA107) — very close at ΔE 2.54, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Chisel swatch →

C2 Paint Equivalent of With the Grain

At C2 Paint, the closest color to With the Grain is Garbanzo (C2-843) — very close at ΔE 2.85, though not an exact twin. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone; sample both side by side if the room gets strong natural light. See the full Garbanzo swatch →

Portola Paints Equivalent of With the Grain

Portola Paints has no exact twin of With the Grain. The nearest is Coda (CODA) at ΔE 4.91 — close, but the difference shows next to trim and in side light. It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38). Compare large swatches before substituting. See the full Coda swatch →

Kompozit Equivalent of With the Grain

Kompozit's nearest match is Rich Reward (0302), visually identical in normal room light (ΔE 1.39). It sits at the same lightness (LRV 38 vs 38) and carries a warm red-orange undertone, so it substitutes for With the Grain without repainting risk. See the full Rich Reward swatch →

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